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Location: Franklin, North Carolina
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Item: 132892593647
Return shipping will be paid by:Buyer
All returns accepted:Returns Accepted
Item must be returned within:30 Days
Refund will be given as:Money Back
American Pond:American Pond
Type:Pond Liner Underlayment Combo
Bundle Description:Pond liner with 6oz weight matching underlayment
Custom Bundle:Yes
Color:Black
Material:EPDM
MPN:Liner6ozUnderlay
Suitable For:Ponds
45 Mil EPDM Pond Liner “Sizes Are In Feet” – Plus matching square footage of 6oz Geotextile Underlayment We cannot ship pond liner to AK, HI, PR. Fish friendly – EPDM Pond Liner is based on EPDM synthetic rubber, a highly flexible stable material that’s not only long lasting and easy to work with, but safe for fish and plant life.Highly flexible – stays flexible in a variety of temperatures- from -40 degrees F to 175 degrees F- enabling it to be installed year round. And unlike some other liner materials EPDM Liner contains no plasticizers which can embrittle with age and cause cracks or splits in the material threatening fish and animal life.Design versatility – can easily be shaped to fit the unique contours of your pond giving you much more design creativity. Multiple membrane panels can be quickly and securely seamed to accommodate larger pond lining applications and unique design elements such as waterfalls.Weather resistant – shows outstanding resistance to the harmful effects of ultraviolet radiation (UV), ozone, and other environmental conditions- important characteristics especially along the water line of the pond where the liner can be exposed.Extreme durability and high elongation – EPDM has a characteristic that enables it to conform to objects in the subgrade. EPDM Liner will stretch over exposed rocks and tree roots but always use a protective underlayment for added puncture resistance. American Pond 6oz Protective UnderlaymentMaterial – Non Woven stable Polypropolyene Fiber Filaments bonded by heatset and needle punchedResist – Tears, punctures, soil chemicalsFeatures – Extreme tolerance of Hydrocarbons, Freeze-thaw cycles, mildew, and rot The use of proper underlayment is one of the most overlooked steps in building a backyard water garden or Koi pond. This 6 oz protective pond underlayment will increase the puncture resistance of your pond liner by nearly 400% and can save you huge amounts of time and money by preventing many common pond leaks. Learn more about Pond Liner below 1. What does EPDM mean and why should I care? EPDM is an abbreviation for Ethylene Propylene Diene Monomer. If you are a chemist you are probably thinking “WOW! I wish I would have thought of that”. For the rest of us it simply means this is some really high quality liner that is meant to last for years. In fact, testing has shown this liner to degrade only ½ mil per year when exposed to direct sunlight. This means that on average a 45 mil liner will still be around nearly 90 years from now! Of course the warranty is for 20 years but with proper care many customers exceed that amount by years. 2. What is 45 mil liner? 45 mil stands for the thickness of the liner material. It is 45/1000 of an inch thick. That may not sound like a lot but this super sturdy liner is the choice of professional pond installers and consumers all over the world. To give you an idea of the outstanding strength of this liner consider that 3.2 square foot of 45 mil liner will weigh 1 full pound. 3. Why is EPDM liner better than a cheap PVC liner? Excellent question and one that is not asked enough! Lets talk about PVC liner first. PVC liner is super cheap and really easy to work with since it is so thin. PVC liner is lightweight compared to heavy duty EPDM and often costs much less to ship. Sounds good right? Now the downside. Liners containing PVC are made with plasticizers to keep them flexible. Over time, or when exposed to the sun these plasticizers leach out of the liner leaving it brittle. In as little as one year a PVC liner can be brittle enough to split open under the weight of your pond water and one day you look out to find an empty pond. It is possible to cover the PVC liner with enough rocks and dirt to prevent the sun from reaching it and this will give you a few more years of use. The question you should be asking yourself is whether you wish to make the cheapest pond possible or whether you wish to build a pond that will last and be enjoyed for years to come. Building your pond with the cheapest liner possible is like building a house with foundations made of sand. It may look nice for a while but in the end you will come to deeply regret spending the few extra dollars to do the job right. 4. What does “FISH SAFE LINER” mean? 45 mil EPDM liner is manufactured to be fish safe. That means that the ingredients used in making the liner are perfectly safe for your fish. The same ingredients are used with EACH AND EVERY batch of liner produced. Roofing liners SOMETIMES use ingredients that are fish safe, and SOMETIMES they do not. Apparently the market price of these ingredients changes quite a bit. Sometimes you get the good stuff, sometimes you don’t. It is your choice which pond liner you choose but if you stock your pond with a few hundred dollars worth of fancy goldfish or a few thousand dollars of imported Koi I think you will agree bargain imported pond liner may not be such a bargain after all. 5. CAN I USE ROOFING Liner for my pond? / What is a toxic pond of death? Sure you can… …as long as you don’t mind dead fish! Roofing liner is very similar to pond liner. Unfortunately, roofing material is made of ingredients based upon current market prices. Sometimes it is made with ingredients the same as “fish safe liner” sometimes it is not. If you get a batch of material that is not made with “fish safe ingredients” you could end up with a toxic pond of death. Roofing material is often made with harsh ingredients such as arsenic that can sicken or kill your fish. If you install unsafe liner material in your pond you will soon see the fish moving around very lethargic and they will have a loss of apatite. At that point your fish will die and there is nothing that can be done about it. But wait a minute, you may have tested water running off your roof and have found it to be chemical free. Does that mean the material is safe for your pond? Not at all. When testing roof runoff you are testing water that has quickly passed over the roofing material and not had a very long contact time. Water in a pond is in constant contact with the lining material and this constant contact will show a much higher concentration of hazardous chemicals. Avoid the chance of turning your backyard oasis into a “TOXIC POND OF DEATH” and use actual 45 mil EPDM pond liner. 6. WHY DO I NEED UNDERLAYMENT? / Can I use newspaper or old carpet instead? To answer those questions we need to know what exactly underlayment is and what it does. A proper underlayment is considered a “non woven Geotextile” That is a fancy term for saying it is a really tough material that is lightweight and easy to work with. Underlayment has only one job and that is to protect your pond liner. 45 mil Pond liner is very strong and puncture resistant but it does have its limits. Using a 7oz thickness of underlayment can improve the PUNTURE RESISTANCE of your pond liner by 400%. Strangely, using a thicker underlayment will not significantly increase the protection to the liner but using a thinner one will greatly reduce your protection. “I want to use newspapers for an underlayment.” Great, go right ahead. Just make sure you test the thickness that you need by stacking enough WET newspapers over a sharp rock that it does not poke thru when you put 20,000 lbs on top of it! The average 2 foot deep pond that is 11×16 foot will have enough water in it to exceed 10 TONS. That’s over 20,000 pounds of water in your pond. If you use newspapers as your underlayment you better stack them about 1 foot thick. That’s a lot of Sunday papers folks! “I want to use sand for an underlayment” SEE ABOVE. Unless you OWN the beach you are getting the sand from it is a BAD and expensive idea to try and put enough sand down to protect your pond liner from rocks hidden under the surface. These rocks will emerge over time as the HUGE weight of your pond presses down on it. “I want to use old carpet for an underlayment” Got allergies? No, well you soon will have. Yes, then stay away from your pond all together as it will soon make you sick. Look folks, saving money is my favorite past time but doing so at the risk of my health has never been high on my list. Carpets are NASTY, DIRTY, BACTERIA FILLED MOLD ATTRACTORS! And that’s when they are dry in your home. Now take this same filthy used rag and put it under your pond liner where it will sit wet and moldy for the next 10-20 years. In this case your fish will be fine but as far as the people around the pond, their health is in your hands. Save money when it makes sense and spend money to ensure your family and friends enjoy your new pond without the need for allergy shots! 7. How much liner do I need? Liner calculations are not as hard as they seem. There are lots of handy formulas around to help you determine the exact amount you need but with most ponds a the following guide should be most useful. 1. Take the max length of your pond and write it down. “lets say 9 foot” 2. Take the max depth (not the average depth) and double that. “2 foot deep would be 4 foot” If the liner goes down into the pond it must come back up! That is why you double the depth. 3. Add 2 foot to the total (one foot overhand on each end to anchor the liner ) This gives you a required length of liner as 9+4+2=15 Use the same calculations for the width. Example: 7 foot wide (use the same depth) would give you a required width of 7+4+2=13 YOUR REQUIRED SIZE would then be 15×14. As liners are sold in 5 foot increments you would purchase a liner that was 15×15 Special Liner sizing Notes: 1. When attaching a waterfall filter that will be elevated above the pond, you will need additional liner. If you have a 4 foot tall waterfall then you will need an additional 4 foot of liner on that side. 2. When constructing a larger pond, you may need to use additional liner on each side to anchor the pond. For large ponds consider using 2 foot of liner on each side and for extremely large pond you should call for assistance. 8. What sizes does 45 MIL EPDM liner come in? Great question! Pond liner comes in lengths up to 100 foot in the following widths: 5, 10, 15, 20, 25, 30, 40, and 50 foot. This means the smallest size you could buy is a 5×5 and the largest size available is a 50×100. 9. Do you have other Liner accessories for sale? Yes we do. From seaming tape, to pipe boots, repair kits and primer, Graystone Creations has a full line of the products you need to install and maintain your pond liner. 10. My liner has footprints on it. What happened? We walked on it! The size of the liner ordered will depend upon which roll we cut your order from. Very large liner sizes require both unrolling of the liner in our warehouse and the cutting and refolding of the liner so we can ship it. Sometimes it takes several workers to fold and roll large sections of this very heavy liner and it gets stepped on. Yes the size 13 print is my own! 11. There are some dried silver looking specs on part of my liner. Is that paint? Nope! Occasionally the curing / drying process will leave some silver colored spots on the liner. This discoloration is minor and in no way effects the use or quality of the liner. 14. Why is pond liner so expensive to ship? 45 mil EPDM Pond liner weighs about .31 pounds per square foot. This means a 20×25 foot (500 square foot) liner will weigh 154 lbs. There is no cheap way to ship this liner. Liners over 150 lbs ship by freight and require a signature upon delivery. Freight orders will require 2 or more people to unload and transport the liner to its location. VERY large liners may require equipment to unload 4 or more people to move into position in your pond. Graystone Industries ships most pond liner from a warehouse in Franklin NC. Walk in customers are welcome Tuesday thru Friday. Pond liner orders to the west coast generally take 5-6 business days to arrive. At Graystone Creations we believe a well informed customer is not a threat to a successful business but its very foundation. Written by: John Olson Owner & CEO of GraystoneCreations.com and Google+ Author
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